Bay Area Walmart employees say they were fired in retaliation for striking

Dominic Ware participated in an OURWalmart strike this past May.

After working for nearly two years at Walmart in San Leandro, Dominic Ware said he’d witnessed too many co-workers struggle to make ends meet, and had felt disrespected for long enough. A co-worker recruited him to join Organization United for Respect at Walmart, or OURWalmart, a national group of Walmart associates organizing for better workplace conditions and pay.

“She couldn’t even pass the pen fast enough,” said Ware. Last October, he participated in the first mass-strike of American workers in Walmart’s history.

In May, Ware joined a hundred others in the longest Walmart workers’ strike yet, lasting from May 29 through June 8, to demand protection for strikes, livable wages, the option for full-time shifts, and respect in the workplace. After two weeks of striking, a legally protected activity for all workers, Ware went back to work. Things were normal at first. But in mid-July, he was fired.  

Raymond Bravo, a maintenance associate at the Richmond Walmart, also joined Ware and other OURWalmart members on a caravan of striking workers to demonstrate outside Walmart’s corporate headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas in May.

“I saw the lack of respect and favoritism,” said Bravo. “I wanted to join because I had no voice at Walmart, and I believe we should stand together.”

Like Ware, Bravo returned to the job after Arkansas with little fuss. “My next scheduled day was June 12, and nothing happened,” said Bravo. But two weeks down the line, Walmart began coaching associates for absences, and changing his schedule.

“I knew my days were numbered,” said Bravo. “I had already been disciplined for striking last year, and I’d heard from other associates that their hours were cut. That was kind of fishy.” Roughly two weeks after returning, Bravo was fired.

It appears that Ware and Bravo’s terminations weren’t isolated incidents. Around 60 Walmart associates across the country were disciplined or terminated after participating in the strike, according to OURWalmart. Since termination in retaliation for striking activity is illegal under the National Labor Relations Act, both Ware and Bravo plan to embark in legal battles to get their jobs back.

Walmart may rightfully fire an individual employee after he violates the company’s absence policy by missing work, Walmart spokesman Dan Fogleman told the Guardian. In Bravo’s case, “the decision has nothing to do with a specific protest or activity of that nature,” said Fogleman. “We have a strict policy against retaliation.”

Fogelman claims the OURWalmart demonstrations were not legitimate strikes, but “made for TV” publicity stunts for the union that has leant support for OURWalmart, the United Food and Commercial Workers. Walmart made a similar claim in response to the October 2012 strikes. The nation’s largest private employer, Walmart employs roughly 1.4 million American workers, all non-unionized.

“Walmart didn’t want to recognize a strike as strike,” said Ware. “But they are playing with people’s lives. Those who are working 45 hours a week, that’s not a lot, but that’s all they have, and if you take that away, they’ll lose everything they have.”

According to a report issued by American Rights at Work, a nonprofit that advocates for democracy in the workplace, OURWalmart received more than 150 accounts of individual incidents of harassment, threats, changes to shifts and hours, and retaliatory discipline, including termination, from workers who participated in the wave of work stoppages and demonstrations that began last October.

Bravo has filed a wrongful termination affidavit with the National Labor Relations Board. “Walmart is pushing the envelope right now,” said Bravo, “but I know that I’ll get my job back.”

But according to John Logan, professor and director of labor and employment studies at San Francisco State University, the law may protect work stoppage and protests but does not necessarily protect low-wage workers like Ware and Bravo from the damages of retaliation.

“In a very large employer like Walmart, in a non-union environment, protections are very weak and penalties for violations are very ineffectual,” said Logan. “In reality, you are only slightly better off than if you have no legal protections at all.”

When asked about the effectiveness of filing a complaint with the labor board, Logan said that process is long and painful, and may accomplish little for the worker in the end. “These cases often move at a glacial speed at the labor board,” said Logan. “Even if they were to get the original position they are legally entitled, in a lot of instances, workers who go back stay for a very short period of time because the working conditions are intolerable, or made to be intolerable.”

“The obvious point is that clearly, the effect on the worker is the same whether or not they were fired for strike or absentee policy,” said Logan. “They lost their job.”


There's plenty of other workers who will do these jobs. When the Oakland WalMart opened, thousands applied for the few dozen jobs there.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 09, 2013 @ 10:50 pm

Got it. That's why we need an effective government to keep citizens protected from potential abusive employers.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 12:05 am

That gets you fired in every nation I know of.

Firing is the remedy, not the problem. If you don't like the job, leave. WalMart has 20 applicants for every vacancy.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 12:59 am

No civilized nation I know of fires striking workers. That's a clear violation of labor rights. That only happens in America and third world dictatorships.

Posted by Greg on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 7:29 am

Absenteeism is often punished - that has nothing to do with workers' rights.

Posted by anon on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 7:41 am

I'd say may he rot in hell, but I don't believe in hell. I just hope he suffered before he croaked.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 9:07 am

goes to show how out of whack your thinking is.

Posted by anon on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 9:41 am

"Anon", the fact that Reagan was such a popular President in spite of being a puppet of the oligarchs shows out out-of-whack this country is. In the civilized world, the right of workers to strike is legally protected, and joining a union is a constitutional right. In the civilized world, bribery is illegal. In the U.S., it is legal - bribes are called "campaign contributions." In the civilized world, all criminals go to jail. In the U.S., criminals who are rich and powerful enough (like the Wall Street crooks who gambled away other people's money and tanked the world economy) routinely go unpunished - and in fact get rewarded. Clearly this country has a long way to go before it gets to join the civilized world.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 13, 2013 @ 6:33 am

The workers were not covered by a collective bargaining agreement. Therefore, there is no union, and no right to strike.

Posted by Richmondman on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 8:05 am

talk about a union at work is a sackable offense.

Posted by anon on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 8:23 am

firing someone for discussing unionizing at work or joining a union is against the law.

Any other tidbits or lies you want to share? You don't have to answer that because thoughtful readers are already familiar with your falsehoods from all your other comments.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 8:33 am

even discussing a union at work was just cause for dismissal.

Workers should be working not plotting to disadvantage their employer,

Posted by anon on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 8:51 am

is illegal and unenforceable.

Of course, you will deny that class warfare exists, but in your view of it, only the employer class is allowed to fight.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 9:10 am

They can quit a job they do not like and find one that they do like.

But I have seen anti-union clauses in contracts routinely - you should get out more.

Posted by anon on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 9:42 am

occupy the business and run it themselves.

You routinely see illegal and unenforceable clauses.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 10:02 am

No job and in prison - that's a winning combo.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 10:30 am

The upper classes have the laws and officials on their side.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 1:22 pm

You are free to vote for an alternative.

Posted by anon on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 9:38 pm

That is protected, the company doesn't have to listen to your union.

Thankfully I have never worked at a wallmart type operation, I have worked with various unions around. I have always had better relations with the business than I ever had with for example the SEIU.

The biggest union shills tend to be the worst and conspiracy addled workers, the union just feeds these traits.

Posted by Matlock on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 12:43 pm

to protect people from the individual choices they make, such as banning abortion?

Or just the choices that fit into your agenda?

Posted by Matlock on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 12:37 pm

Jason Grant Garza here ... Walmart worker says fired because of striking ... Walmart says because of absence. Then the article states " But according to John Logan, professor and director of labor and employment studies at San Francisco State University, the law may protect work stoppage and protests but does not necessarily protect low-wage workers like Ware and Bravo from the damages of retaliation.

“In a very large employer like Walmart, in a non-union environment, protections are very weak and penalties for violations are very ineffectual,” said Logan. “In reality, you are only slightly better off than if you have no legal protections at all.”

When asked about the effectiveness of filing a complaint with the labor board, Logan said that process is long and painful, and may accomplish little for the worker in the end. “These cases often move at a glacial speed at the labor board,” said Logan. “Even if they were to get the original position they are legally entitled, in a lot of instances, workers who go back stay for a very short period of time because the working conditions are intolerable, or made to be intolerable.”

“The obvious point is that clearly, the effect on the worker is the same whether or not they were fired for strike or absentee policy,” said Logan. “They lost their job.”"

NOW TO THE DPH REFERENCE ... did DPH commit CRIMINAL FRAUD or deny MEDICAL SERVICES ??? Watch the rest of the videos to see the NON HELP I got a glacial speed ... NONE, NADA, ZIP.

So now how different is Walmart Corporation from the San Francisco Department of Public Health ... the obvious point is that clearly, the effect on the individual is the same whether or not he was DENIED MEDICAL CARE, access and accommodation or a FALSE RESTRAINING ORDER ... HE HAS NO MEDICAL CARE.

Shall I show you an article here in the SF Bay Guardian where the byline is " This is nuts: A bizarre tale of the insanity that is SF's mental health system. ' or maybe

Comments ??? Go to youtube and type in Jason Garza to see over 199 videos ... I still await the L:AW to PROTECT ME ... there is the RULE of LAW in AMERICA ... you know we don't torture, don't discriminate and even BANKS get prosecuted ... ha,ha,ha.


Posted by Jason Grant Garza on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 4:50 am

You don't want to work? OK. I'll find someone else who wants to. End of.

Posted by anon on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 5:08 am

i can see right now it would be a cold day in hell b4 i would work for you.
i would love to see walmart unionize or just have a majority quit, watch them cry if they cant get the employees, its time for people to put the walmarts of this country in their place
ps if you have seen that anti union clause in a contract and i can guaranteee that would be removed and most likely a fine

Posted by Guest on Aug. 22, 2013 @ 9:35 am

I fully support efforts by Wal-Mart employees and its unions to get a decent wage and benefits.

Many Wal-Marts nationwide encourage their employees to sign up for Medicaid. If Wal-Mart employees someone full-time, Wal-Mart should be giving them healthcare coverage.

Posted by Troll the XIV on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 4:53 pm

If these employees succeeded in getting Walmart to pay them $15 an hour instead of $9 an hour, future hires will be people whose next best alternative is a $14.99 an hour job. People at the skill level Walmart currently hires will be left out, and the workers who won the wage increase will be let go over time as more skilled new hires outperform them.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 5:44 pm

This makes absolutely zero sense.

Posted by Greg on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 6:22 pm

An economically illiterate guy says what?

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 7:30 pm

they would have to pay someone else to do that job.

In the case of a totally unskilled job like stacking shelves at WalMart, that is probably less than minimum wage, so there is no market pressure to pay more than minimum wage.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 9:18 pm

Without it, companies will pay people crap wages even for full-time work, just because they can. Thanks for making the case for unions and government regulation.

Posted by Greg on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 9:51 pm

defined by what others are willing to do that job for. Nobody willingly overpays for anything do you offer more to buy something in a store than the marked price? Of course not.

WalMart pays minimum wage in only those cases where the worker is worth nothing more, and probably less.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 10:13 pm

We've been around this block before. Because of the nature of power relationships between large employers and individuals, if we let employers have their way, you'd get into a situation where desperate people would be coerced into doing work for wages they cannot live on, even though the employer can afford to pay more. That's not an ideal situation for anyone but the boss. Because bosses are few and workers are many, it's in the interests of society as a whole to equalize the power relationship. One way to do that is if many workers get together and bargain collectively. Better still, the people, excersizing their democratic will through representative government, just tells the employer "you WILL not pay less than X, no matter what." Who decides X? The people. The government. Imperfect? Sure. That's why minimum wage is $7.25 instead of $15 which is what it should be. But it's sure as hell better than what you want, which is the mythical invisible hand, which is to say that the decision is made without any input of reason or compassion from the community. That's called barbarism. In a civilized society, government doesn't allow employers to be complete swine, just because they can. We can quibble over the price point, but the basic idea that government has a place in regulating wages -thankfully that debate was settled about a hundred years ago.

Posted by Greg on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 11:01 pm

could in theory pay more. Because that would deprive the shareholders of a higher return on their capital and, for all that you are one of the tiny minority of Americans who do not like capitalism, that is the system we have here and the people seem very happy with it.

If we had a %15 minimum wage, then many businesses would close as it wouldn't be worthwhile hiring people at that rate. Easier to relocate or outsource. $15 an hour is an insane rate of pay when there are people around the world who will work for a fraction of that.

I read somewhere recently that just less than a quarter of Americans are now in a union, and that is mostly the public sector, or in old-school business sectors like transport, shipping, hotels, steel etc. The average American sees little need for unions, and union membership continues to decline.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 12:25 am

does not supercede the right of the people to make a living wage. Capitalism or not, I think the concept that government has a right to force employers to pay a minimum wage is a settled concept with consensus support.

There are easy ways to prevent outsourcing. Simply levy tariffs on outsourced goods. In any case, WalMart can't exactly outsource anything it already hasn't. You can't hire greeters, cashiers, and stockers from India without moving your store to India. Nor can you hire less of them. The myth of elastic hiring is just that. WalMart already doesn't hire a single more person than the minimum it needs to get the job done. In short, if they want to continue to sell their crap to Americans, they will have no choice but to pay up.

As for Americans preferring capitalism... well the numbers aren't as lopsided as you might think. In fact, among young people, more people actually prefer socialism:

And it's not because people get more conservative as they age. That's been proven a myth. People generally believe the same things they believed when they were young. It's just that each generation is becoming more progressive. And those trends will continue. The more the capitalists succeed in concentrating wealth and leaving everyone else behind, the more everyone else will turn away from the system that screws their lives over. At one point, something has to break. Your own greed will do you in.

Posted by Greg on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 7:48 am

take a bigger risk. Showing up for work every day doesn't involve a lot of risk.

WalMart probable cannot outsource more than they do, unless they go more into the online sales business and set up huge distribution plants in Mexico. But they will certainly hire less US workers if it is too expensive to do so.

And of course young people are more cynical about capitalism. They're young. If you are not a liberal at 20 . . and all that. What's weird about you is that you haven't matured beyond that as the rest of us have done. But that's a matter between you and your therapist.

Nobody pays more than they think somebody or something is worth.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 8:03 am

Actually, Costco pays workers closer to $15 an hour, and their staffing levels are much lower than Walmart's in part because the people you can hire at $15 an hour are much more productive than the people you can hire at $8. Visit the two stores and watch people work; you'll see what I'm talking about. This is also the reason your ideas about the minimum wage fail. If Walmart had to pay every worker $15 an hour, they wouldn't hire the slower people that they often hire now. They'd select the best of the pool and slower folks would be left unemployed.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 8:18 am

Greg's idea of paying them what they would like rather than what they are worth fails all the basic test of employment. But then, of course, Greg will never have to hire anyone or run a business, so how could he ever know?

Posted by Guest on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 8:56 am

hour for their unskilled labor, as long as I'm not on the hook for their healthcare, pensions etc.

Apparently the magic number is about 30 hours a week and so, as long as they work less than that, they have no claim for benefits and the employer is also exempt from the ObamaCare requirements.

Expect to see much more part-time work.

Posted by anon on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 9:26 am

So many of you have sucked into the media hype too much!
Fighting for working conditions is a basic human right, how would you like to go slave all day just to starve each day for food and shelter?
Would you let your Grandparents live like this?

It is easy to beat a person down, and you are usually viewed as the bad guy for doing it~ but it twice as hard to help someone stand up, and you are usually viewed as the hero for doing it.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 9:45 am

Nobody forces you to take a job you do not like. So if you choose to take such a job and hold it, then it has to be assumed that you are ahppy with it, the only other alternative being that you are stupid, and I'm sure you're not stupid right?

People with skills and talent are in demand, and have employers begging to take them on. The rest, well, they pay the price for not developing those skills. But why should life's winners subsidize life's losers? Not very American.

Posted by anon on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 10:08 am

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After finally conquering years of alcoholism/addiction, making extensive efforts to help others publicly and privately , and building and maintaining what I thought was a good and stable life, I lost my job, my career, the last 10 prime years of my life, and any hope of ever retiring in my lifetime, because I did what I thought was the right thing and spoke up against a Walmart manager’s abuse of a handicapped girl in our store, when although her hysterical crying could be heard across the store, everyone else was afraid to report it. During my incredible and grueling battle for justice I was forced to realize some deeply troubling truths about the very shameful and broken state of our American culture and society today that I feel it is my duty and responsibility to try to do something about. My story is very difficult to summarize without losing the picture of the true struggle, injustice, and tragedy of the situation, but I will try to give you the best brief description I can. 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I actually received responses from that letter, and my case was then directed to Obama’s hand appointed top NLRB official. Unfortunately my case was then again dismissed, and even after that official was himself subsequently busted for Ethics violations for helping Walmart to avoid charges in another case, and supposedly under investigation for criminal charges by the Dept .of Justice, I still could not get any reconsideration and believe it or not, that official went unpunished and still remains in office. Probably because I had made such adamant efforts, before it was all over I was actually receiving confidential calls from DC government officials sympathizing and apologizing to me for the atrocious injustice I was suffering do to what they called `such a flawed system’. I believe it is not farfetched to say that we average American Walmart workers today are living in what could be described as not much more than a sad state of tyranny. When a store full of employees will watch and listen to the abusive bullying and hysterical crying of a poor vulnerable handicapped girl who cannot very well speak up for herself, and be so pathetically afraid and distrustful of their employer and their government that they will not even say anything or try to stop it, and this is what happens to one who does, then we have a very seriously disturbing and alarming problem in the society and culture of the largest employer in our country today that should concern and be deeply troubling and to every citizen. Our most average American workers today, Walmart workers, are robbed not only of their Civil and Basic Human rights and right to Justice under the law, but of their very Honor and Dignity. They are reduced to not much more than modern-day peasant slaves in service to fatten the multibillion dollar wallets of the top execs of king Walmart, too afraid to speak-up no matter what type of conditions or treatment they see or are subjected to, no possible form of recourse against mistreatment, abuse, unfair, or even illegal labor practice, and actually likely to lose their own well-being even if they try. And what is truly frightening is the fact that we do not really even know what type of reprehensible behavior and conditions our most average American citizens are working under , because our system and society today ensures that they are too afraid to even speak up because they know what happened to me, will happen to them, and so Walmart has unrestrained free reign, and keeps out of trouble through a masterfully evil and inhuman system of widespread fear and corruption that destroys our American culture, society and every good and decent principle that our country is supposed to stand for and represent. God help us. Nobody owes me anything, I am sorry if this sounds like soliciting, just thought I'd allow oportunity for anyone that may be doing well and want to help out because I suffered serious financial damages and lost all those last prime years of my life I had invested in the company, all because I so naively trusted that we do have rights and laws protecting workers as we are suposed to, and I did the right thing when everyone else was afraid, only to find-out that I was a peasant slave to tyrant king Walmart without even realizing it. If I got in the same situation again I would still report it, and I will continue to do everything I can to try to be a voice for the people. Any donation or type of support and prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Sincerely, Robert Snodgrass. emal: phone: 484-252-9596 Bob Snodgrass, 715 Taylor Rd, Downingtown, Pa 19335

Posted by Guest on Aug. 12, 2013 @ 4:48 pm

This for anyone that works for the Walmart clowns, you only get paid for what you have experience in which is a lot of nothing in your dam head ...
If you think that making minimum wage is worth suing for than you have shown what you are worth. Go out and get a good job Wally World is not worth it, really have you seen what kind of filth shops there.

Posted by Den on Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:16 pm