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Chiu: Can he go for three?

The last time the San Francisco supervisors elected a new board president, the progressives got a swift kick in the ass. David Chiu, who had been elected to the top slot two years earlier with the unanimous support of progressives, disappointed some of his allies and wasn't going to get their votes. But he wanted to keep his job, so he turned to the conservatives -- and with the support of the folks on the right, he won another term. The he turned around and put the center-right folks in charge of some key committees. Price of the deal.

Now he's looking for a third two-year term -- but this time there aren't any easy alliances. Several of his colleagues are also in the running, from across the political spectrum. And nobody right now has the magical six votes.

Scott Wiener on one side, David Campos on the other, Jane Kim closer to Chiu ... somebody's going to have to back down or cut a deal. And that's where these things tend to get squirrly.

Me, I think Campos would be perfect for the job, not only because I agree with him most of the time but because he's reliable, fair, and cares about public empowerment and input. That wouldn't be to Chiu's advantage -- the two are likely to be facing off in a tough state Assembly contest when Tom Ammiano is termed out in two years, and the last thing Chiu would want is to have his rival in such a high-profile spot. So it's not likely either of those two will be voting for the other.

I haven't always agreed with Kim, but she's more on the progressive side than not, and she's really smart. You could see that as she took apart the city attorney's arguments during the Ross Mirkarimi debate. Wiener has one of the most ambitious legislative agendas of any current board member and has proven to be an effective (sometimes dangerously effective) politician.

Wiener can probably get votes from the most conservative side, Mark Farrell and Carmen Chu, and might be able to line up, say, Malia Cohen and possibly even newcomer London Breed. But that's not six -- and that assumes that Chiu doesn't make a play for those votes the way he did last time. Campos will get the progressives (John Avalos and likely Eric Mar), but that's not six either. And with Kim and Chiu going after some of the same people, nobody's going to come close in the first round.

That is, unless somebody cuts a series of backroom deals.

So my suggestion is this: Let's demand that all of them tell us up front who they would put on which committees. Sure, it looks like pandering if Wiener promises Budget and Finance Chair to Cohen, who then votes for him -- but that stuff is going to happen anyway, and I'd rather have it out in the open.

 

 

 

 

 

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Sean was a water carrier for downtown, a very effective and smart water carrier, but a water carrier nonetheless. As a member of the City Family in good standing, Sean was rewarded with a job carrying water for Dianne Feinswine who in turn carries water for her husband and his ilk.

Prop G failed to make a dent in Muni that we can tell. On pensions, he had help from billionaires, it is easy to score when you start out on 3d base.

Posted by marcos on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 2:37 pm

you can get from downtown.

But if by that what you really meant is that Sean understood that SF needs a vibrant business sector to provide the revenues for all the services the city would like to provide then, yes, Sean saw that in the same way that Lee did. Evidently the voters like that since both were elected after their initial appointment.

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 4:13 pm

Troll.

Posted by marcos on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:31 pm
Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:57 pm

"This Guest I like."

Thanks Greg. I certainly don't want to be confused with the other Guest and I always sign all my posts with my real name but in this case I forgot to do so and whoever runs the thread did not update my post as requested when I realized my omission. So I'm trying again with this signed post.

I'd just like to add that Fiona Ma's pomeranian would probably have been an improvement over F.M. herself on the Board but the question that would have first arisen would be was the dog Asian-American.

Best to everyone in the new year. I love this lively blog.

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Posted by Barry Eisenberg on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 1:04 pm

This place gets better and better.

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:56 pm

There you go again with the assinine race card. I didn't see anything against Asians. Just one particular politician who happens to be Asian. It's obvious that you're here just to debase the conversation.

Posted by Greg on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 10:36 pm

that she doesn't vote in a mindless, kneejerk way like the more 2reliable" Avalos. To many of us, that makes Kim a much better Supe.

"Independent" would be a much better categorization of her - neither side can count on her 100%, which is exactly how it should be.

But you're right about the Asian bloc and how that will favor Chiu. And I wouldn't say the board head does little - Chui was critical in handling the mayoral transition 2 years ago.

Posted by guest on Dec. 31, 2012 @ 8:31 am

Unfortunately she's ethnically Korean, not Chinese, so she'll never be able to command the respect and support of the Rose Pak Chinese junta on the leadership issue. Chinese stick with Chinese - slanty eyes only get you so far with that group.

Posted by Lucretia Snapples on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 3:02 pm
Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 4:06 pm

Or about your hierarchy of ethnic groups, which from my analysis of your posts is:

White
White
White
White
-------
Asian
-------
-------
-------
Hispanic (your term)
-------
Black

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 4:32 pm

South America? Really?

Maybe somebody should tell these guys:

http://www.hsf.net/

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 4:47 pm
Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 4:50 pm

to be nice to assholes, I'll incorporate your preferred definition into your racial hierarchy:

White
White
White
White
-------
Asian
-------
-------
-------
Hispanic (includes white Europeans from Spain)
Latino
-------
Black

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:15 pm

as "Hispanics". Iberians, maybe, but not Hispanics.

Hispania is, in fact, an old term for the southern America's, hence it's use as a generic term for people from "south of the border".

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:21 pm
Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:40 pm

I know what you were doing there, Eddie. You think that "hispanic" is not PC and you think I should use the word "latino" instead.

Except that those two terms actually have (subtle) differences in meanings.

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:55 pm

think that most Spanish speaking people in this area prefer "Latino."

Apparently, you didn't grasp my point that you are a white supremacist, since you didn't respond to my satirical listings of your racial hierarchy.

Borrowing from Marcos: Q.E.Dumbass.

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:05 pm

automatically a "white supremicist"?

Hmm, how does that square with our earlier observation that it is the Asian bloc that really has the power here, and not the whites?

And that almost all SF "progressives" are white?

Playing the race card is as ineffective as it is intellectually dishonest.

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:18 pm

I am pointing out that he ranks groups by their race from my satirical lists is so caught up in his own white supremacy that he doesn't realize it.

What's the slang for that?

Oh yeah, he has his head up his ass.

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:45 pm

Racism troll.

Posted by marcos on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:52 pm

But it was inappropriate for him to focus on race. It's understandable for ethnic affinity to play some part, however.

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:57 pm

Racism troll.

Posted by marcos on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 7:18 pm

I merely listed your racial hierarchy that I have gathered from reading your posts here.

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 8:35 pm

Trolls hijack a thread again and spread misinformation....In Portugal, Hispanic always refers to something related to Hispania, Spain or the Spanish language and culture. Portugal and Spain have the same definition for the term Hispanic (pt: hispânico, es: hispánico). The Royal Spanish Academy (Spanish: Real Academia Española, RAE), the official royal institution responsible for regulating the Spanish language defines the term hispanic in Spanish as:

1. Belonging or pertaining to Spain.
2. Pertaining to the ancient Hispania or the peoples which were part of it and those born at a later date.
3. Pertaining to the Spanish language and culture.

The term signifies the cultural resonance, among other elements and characteristics, of the descendants of the people who inhabited ancient Hispania. It has been used throughout history for purposes such as, but not limited to, drawing a contrast to the moors and differentiating explorers and settlers.

In Spanish, another term, "hispano" as in Hispano-Americano, refers to the people of Spanish origin who live in the Americas; it also refers to a relationship to Hispania or to the Spanish language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic#Definitions_in_Portugal_and_Spain

Posted by marcos on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 5:45 pm

"hispanic". But of course the American use of the term includes anyone from south of the border, and does not differentiate between those who originate in Portugal (basically, Brazilians) and those originating from Spain. It's a moot distinction.

Anyway, in reference to the BofS, the reference was obviously to the two supervisors who are all that remains of the left-wing rump, and whose names both coincidentally (or not) both end in "os" i.e Avalos and Campos.

The BofS is run by whites and asians, and the new board head will be drawn from that powerbase. As in the nation as a whole, blacks and hispanics struggle to acquire, maintain or project political power, even though they are now more than 25% of the population.

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:05 pm

Racism troll.

Posted by marcos on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:16 pm

two things:

1) We're getting to you, and
2) You think our posts are effective.

Both induce us to post more, not less. You might want to reconsider your tactics.

Posted by anon on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:44 pm

Troll.

Posted by marcos on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 8:44 pm

Archie Bunker? David Duke? Calvin Candie?

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:23 pm

Interesting that you would perceive such in that way.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 6:42 pm

a Democrat.

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 01, 2013 @ 8:27 pm

It's a purely internal decision, and there is little motivation for them to make a public spectacle out of what is essentially routine quid pro quo.

I'd give Wiener the edge right now.

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